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    Okay so this thread will be the official thread in which people can talk the white book, and anything related to it, i'll get tito to sticky it..

    Heres something for the theorists..

    From the white book, it claims that jay-z pulled the trigger on pac..

    Why? Maybe for, at that time, the present biggest hip hop icon in the world, to take him out and now, become the worlds current hip hop icon?

    For more.. Lets look to pacs last song he recorded.. all out..

    And props to my homie roland on this!

    Just another lost soul, stuck, callin Jehovah
    Jehovah. J-Hov? Jay Z?

    Discuss..
    "I mentioned to him (Kastro) about Makaveli Board and he said that Makaveli Board is family to him"

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    Dear Lord give me the strength to fight the evil in this game
    Ooh I close my eyes and get down on my knees
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    Any idea why this book is called "The White Book" ?
    Keep the legacy alive!

    http://www.lastfm.pl/user/sEEELu

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    Quote Originally Posted by selu View Post
    Any idea why this book is called "The White Book" ?

    I think its kind of an answer to The Black Book which is the Satanic Bible

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    **** jay z...he can die.

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    hey what up everyone, shiva glad you posted a thread on this topic. i guess it's a fine line for me on this one, because on one hand i am very interested in discussing the white book ever since reading it (my homey young cush is the only other person i have talked with in detail that has read it), but on the other hand i dont wanna ruin the plot or give too much away for those that just purchased it. regardless, i personally think the book is a must add to any 2pac related book collection.

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    shiva, yeah you right, i didnt wanna put it out there right away but in the book the shooter is jay-z. lol but still, one must read the book in order to really see the way it came to be and who was all involved. beyond that, let's just say that in many ways its ultimately it's a tale of opposing spiritual forces...

    the jehovah quote by pac had not even occurred to me shiva and thats an interesting point. i obviously have always known thats what jay refers to himself as (jay-hova) but never made a connection thats maybe what pac meant with that line. the book details a much closer look at the whole occult connection and influence with hova. have you ever seen prodigy's handwritten letter he sent from jail where he basically calls out jay-z for siding with demonic forces?

    aquarian lady & selu,

    i do not know what the deeper meaning of "white book" may be, all i know is that the story opens with the character that is pac being known by his daughter to always carry around (and write in) a white book with him that inside details his life and many of the things he learned. he finally shares his book with her, and it is the story of this book..

    but thats an interesting possibility aquarian lady...did jay-z not release lucifer on the black album?? on the cover pulling his black hat over his eyes to avoid the light??

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    just ordered should be here in a week or 2, i cant wait to read this shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Bishop View Post
    the jehovah quote by pac had not even occurred to me shiva and thats an interesting point. i obviously have always known thats what jay refers to himself as (jay-hova) but never made a connection thats maybe what pac meant with that line.
    Don't fall for it Roland Bishop, come on man. We are not doing enough thinking.
    In "Smile" Pac says, "bustin shots blindly trying to find Jehova to help me" so does that mean that Pac was trying to find Jay z to help him?

    Come on guys, you need to think. In "All out" he was saying that he was another lost soul stuck calling Jehova, how does that mean he's calling Jay Z?

    Do you know that in the Bible God had many different names in Hebrew and Greek and one of the names is Jehova?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTAFRICA View Post
    Don't fall for it Roland Bishop, come on man. We are not doing enough thinking.
    In "Smile" Pac says, "bustin shots blindly trying to find Jehova to help me" so does that mean that Pac was trying to find Jay z to help him?

    Come on guys, you need to think. In "All out" he was saying that he was another lost soul stuck calling Jehova, how does that mean he's calling Jay Z?

    Do you know that in the Bible God had many different names in Hebrew and Greek and one of the names is Jehova?

    yeah no doubt, also a valid point by westafrica...guess we just kinda thinking out loud trying to wrap our minds around this concept...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTAFRICA View Post
    Don't fall for it Roland Bishop, come on man. We are not doing enough thinking.
    In "Smile" Pac says, "bustin shots blindly trying to find Jehova to help me" so does that mean that Pac was trying to find Jay z to help him?

    Come on guys, you need to think. In "All out" he was saying that he was another lost soul stuck calling Jehova, how does that mean he's calling Jay Z?

    Do you know that in the Bible God had many different names in Hebrew and Greek and one of the names is Jehova?
    Didnt Jay z start calling himself HOV like within the past 2-5 years? so all this wouldnt make sense^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Gamez View Post
    Didnt Jay z start calling himself HOV like within the past 2-5 years? so all this wouldnt make sense^^
    I think you're replying to the wrong person. Maybe what you meant to say to me was that my reply to Roland Bishop was a waste of my time.

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    No offense to you guys, but I think the White book is straight up bullshit and it's another one of those Drah Cenedive -Tupac Lives kind of publicity staunts to make money.
    I have no idea who the author is but you could tell that he purposely put 2 Ls in the name MakaveLLi to avoid copyright infringement on 2pac's own alias MakaveLi which only has one L in it.
    It was probably written by some 2pac alive theorist who wanted to make some money off the 2pac controversy.
    If 2pac wrote a book, he would never reveal where he was living. That's not even his style. Tupac lets us figure everything out through his poetry in interviews, movies and lyrics. He does not directly give answers. I'm telling you, if Afeni finds out about this book, the author is finished.
    2pac would not even title a book "The White Book". The title sounds so stupid to me.
    All you guys have to do is think. Just try using your heads. The controversy is supposed to last forever - that is Until The End of Time. There is a reason why his music constantly keeps having clues and mysteries in them to make you think. They are there to keep the controversy on time after time.
    If 2pac wrote a book revealing all the answers then he'd be terminating his own plan to keep the controversy going because all his unreleased songs have clues and morals in them to keep revealing the pictures and that's what keeps the controversy going on.

    And that whole thing about Jay Z pulling the trigger was the biggest blooper! LOL! Let's say Pac was the one who really wrote the book, and let's say Pac actually got shot on September 7th, how would he fukin know who pulled the trigger? Did he see a bullet with Jay Z's name on it? Or did he see Jay Z in the White Cadillac? And why haven't the outlawz responded?
    You guys need to think. So you mean to tell me that it went from a beat down on Orlando Anderson at the MGM Grand to to Jay Z shooting Pac the same night? That don't even connect, LOL! Straight up comedy. The author better not let Jay Z findout because the author is gonna get sued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTAFRICA View Post
    I think you're replying to the wrong person. Maybe what you meant to say to me was that my reply to Roland Bishop was a waste of my time.
    Yeah thats what I ment lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WESTAFRICA View Post
    No offense to you guys, but I think the White book is straight up bullshit and it's another one of those Drah Cenedive -Tupac Lives kind of publicity staunts to make money.
    I have no idea who the author is but you could tell that he purposely put 2 Ls in the name MakaveLLi to avoid copyright infringement on 2pac's own alias MakaveLi which only has one L in it.
    It was probably written by some 2pac alive theorist who wanted to make some money off the 2pac controversy.
    If 2pac wrote a book, he would never reveal where he was living. That's not even his style. Tupac lets us figure everything out through his poetry in interviews, movies and lyrics. He does not directly give answers. I'm telling you, if Afeni finds out about this book, the author is finished.
    2pac would not even title a book "The White Book". The title sounds so stupid to me.
    All you guys have to do is think. Just try using your heads. The controversy is supposed to last forever - that is Until The End of Time. There is a reason why his music constantly keeps having clues and mysteries in them to make you think. They are there to keep the controversy on time after time.
    If 2pac wrote a book revealing all the answers then he'd be terminating his own plan to keep the controversy going because all his unreleased songs have clues and morals in them to keep revealing the pictures and that's what keeps the controversy going on.

    And that whole thing about Jay Z pulling the trigger was the biggest blooper! LOL! Let's say Pac was the one who really wrote the book, and let's say Pac actually got shot on September 7th, how would he fukin know who pulled the trigger? Did he see a bullet with Jay Z's name on it? Or did he see Jay Z in the White Cadillac? And why haven't the outlawz responded?
    You guys need to think. So you mean to tell me that it went from a beat down on Orlando Anderson at the MGM Grand to to Jay Z shooting Pac the same night? That don't even connect, LOL! Straight up comedy. The author better not let Jay Z findout because the author is gonna get sued.
    westafrica, generally speaking i think you give some solid posts on here to support your personal beliefs most of the time, but cmon dogg you keep telling people to think and use their heads like you the only muh****a in the world that just got it all figured out huh? every single post is not people saying what they believe, often times its people exchanging ideas and possibilities. bouncing ideas off eachother. throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. etc etc etc.

    also, this book is a novel that is loosely based on actual people and events, it is up to the reader to decide what they choose to take from it and what they dont. regardless whether you feel its a stupid name is not the point, it's an interesting and well researched book to read. it is not just about pac faking his death, it is also about biggie, jay-z, nas, dame dash, suge knight, nwa, snoop dogg, p diddy, afeni shakur, mutulu shakur, voletta wallace, olu dara (nas' musician pops), and many more characters other than tupac.

    for a fictional book, it seems to give a pretty accurate portrayal of voletta wallace's migration to brooklyn from jamaica, of mutulu shakur's hiding underground while being wanted for the armored car robbery, of jay-z's trips outta state to sell drugs (and his connection to former bk kingpin calvin klein), of nas' pops early career as a jazz n blues musician, diddy's private school upbringing and time at howard university, and much more than that. so this is why i originally said it begins to blur the lines a bit between what is fact and what is fiction.

    to just dismiss an interesting book based on the history of pac and hiphop in general (even if certain elements are fictional) without even reading it for yourself, just because you think the name is stupid, is asinine in and of itself. even for a cat that thinks he has it all figured out...

    furthermore, drah cenedive is a tight homeboy of mine and very down to earth cool ass brother. i can assure you drah's intention was not just to make money or cause a publicity stunt. you dont know shit about drah to try and judge him other than hearing anton's interview. and i bet if you ask anton he would probably tell you himself that even though he does not agree with drah's book, that he is still somewhat friendly with drah to this day and drah is a decent dude.

    when i got a reply from the dude that wrote the white book, he told me that his inspiration for writing this book was because he felt tupac "died" for us and he wanted to do something to give back. notice how i put quotes around "died" because thats exactly how he wrote it, i took it to mean that he does not think died in a physical sense, but died in a metaphorical sense. we also had an exchange about how the book has remained underground and not many people know about it. his reply to me was that he is ok with that, because maybe it is only for a select few and those that do read it seem to really understand and appreciate it. sounds alot like a somebody thats just all about the money eh?

    so here you are shitting on 2 people that you know nothing about, 2 brothers that were simply inspired by 2pac and felt the need to write about it, 2 people that believe he is alive just like you do. but their theories and research arent worth shit but yours are?? cmon westafrica, you better than that my dude...

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    so the guys myspace that was posted is the dude who wrote the book? how do we know its not tupac himself? of course he wouldnt tell u. also what point of view is the book written from. Dont ruin it for me though im still waiting on the book.


    oh and a semi response to WESTAFRICA:
    tupac wrote tons of poetry and wrote a play, he did happen to be a rapper lol so writing a book doesn't seem to outlandish for him. I'm sure Afeni already knows of this book. Plus this book is a "novel" an unknown one at that so he wouldn't be giving answers directly. Oh and who says Pac is still really in Cuba? plus it doesn't really matter. the only ppl pacs worried about is the feds n they where openly pursing Fidel Castro n they couldn't touch his ass in Cuba. Oh and the whole as for the "therz no connection between OA and Jay Z" thing. OA is OBVIOUSLY just a scape goat for everything that happened that night so no connection is needed.

    added: I like the "about the author" on amazon.com

    About the Author:
    Due to the sensitive nature of this work and the ongoing conspiracy, Makavelli requests that his location remain undisclosed to ensure the safety of him and his family.

    Mr.Makavelli himself lol
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