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    Default "Made Niggaz" - Opinions Please

    I read this forum a lot with an open mind, because I find it interesting. Not only to learn things I didn't know about Tupac - but also various opinions.

    I've read through some posts in this section where people pull lyrics from various songs and try to prove a theory. But one I haven't seen mentioned a lot is "Made Niggaz" from the Gang Related soundtrack.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FSlWJzZVcs&feature=related[/ame]

    And not just the song, but the uncut video. It's very telling. Not telling in the sense that it proves a theory, but there's some interesting lyrics (at least to me) that get me thinking as a Tupac fan.

    - The opening verse - "my life in exchange for yours." To me, this lyric seems out of place in the context of the song opening. Immediately afterwards, he goes into his history - not having love at home, learning from criminals, packing a gun, etc. Maybe someone can chime in here with opinions, what context does this first phrase have? I took it as a warning - playing off the fact the video spends 3 minutes on Biggy and Puffy - that if he goes down, so does Biggy.

    - "Gettin lessons from niggaz in penitentiaries
    Game, when applied help me survive several centuries"

    Again, I'm trying to understand the meaning of this in the context of the song. Why say "several centuries?" It has a purpose . . . but I'm not sure quite what it is. Opinions?

    - "They wonder if I'll go when I'm finally sentenced
    On my knees to God, beggin for repentence"

    This I find poignant because Tupac was very adamant about never going back to prison, as proven through interviews and other songs. This almost seems like a blatant attempt at irony . . .

    - The last part is the short movie leading into the music video. I had never seen the movie part till recently. It has been said that when Biggy and Puffy went to LA in March 1997, they came across as arrogant - just as they were portrayed in the video and it didn't settle well.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p659Avp_ymY[/ame]

    This movie is different than the one in "2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted" in that it shows Tupac and the Outlaws planning, scouting and executing a hit.

    And to me, why does this matter? It goes back to the opening sentence of "my life in exchange for yours." To me, its saying Tupac knew this rivalry had escalated to the point of no return, that one, or most likely both, would meet a fatal end.

    I'm not posting this to say Tupac is coming back in several centuries or that he faked his death and killed Biggy. I'm saying this song is very revealing about Tupac's thoughts, perceptions and anticipation of the future. And also, some questions it raises that I cannot answer.

    I look forward to reading your guys' opinions.

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    Wow never seen the whole video before...thankz 4 sharing this thread is very interesting.

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    one of my favorite tupac track by far.he talks some heavy ish in this song.

    "diss kidada and ill kidnap your daughter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackcorgi View Post
    one of my favorite tupac track by far.he talks some heavy ish in this song.

    "diss kidada and ill kidnap your daughter"
    Not to get this thread off track - but that's the difference between Tupac and Biggy. Tupac not only talked about Faith, but had sex with her (which has been confirmed by one of Faith's songs) and Biggy was silent.

    To me, that spells - B.I.T.C.H.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aem-o4DpNlI[/ame]

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    I was never really a Fan of this song. but I like the beat. i dont believe Faith slept with Pac either
    Last edited by Ghostface; 06-27-2010 at 12:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taylor25 View Post
    I was never really a Fan of this song. but I like the beat.
    Really? I'm not a fan of the Outlaws in the song, but it's one of my favorite of Tupac. Great lyrically, heartfelt and mysterious.

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    LOL I cant even count how many songs the Outlaws have ruined

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    I agree . . . I'm not a fan of them.

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    but to give them there credit. there are songs that they did good on

    All out OG, Teardrops and closed casket(even though pac probally wrote it lol), hailmary,bomb first, etc. But alot of times I find my self zoning out when they start rapping lol waiting for Pac to come back

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    that's funny - I do the same thing . . . zone out the Outlaws and zone back in when Pac comes on.

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    I've always thought as if 2pac was offering whoever listens to that track an idea of how his life started "born hated as a thug..etc" and if anyone would dare exchange his or her life with Pac's.

    Like "would u exchange ur life with mine knowing that i was born hated as a thug and in a house full of babies crying.." JMO.
    What can I say that hasn't already been said. It was either become a political prisoner or live in exile.
    I chose exile and now my family and I are doing well.



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    This is 1 of my fav songs..

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    I always thouth this line was very strange:

    Know the feds trail me, to my alias Makaveli
    Gettin lessons from niggaz in penitentiaries
    Game, when applied help me survive several centuries

    Like he learned these lessons from machiavelli that will help him survive a centuries. But thats just a thought

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    "one of us gona see the cemetary" 2pac even talks about the plot in his hit song How Do U want It,2pac is a Genius, DUHH,2pac Faked His death.

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    For alive believers, this song is one of the most intriguing songs for him being alive especially that it came out after he "died".

    Also, some people went as far as saying that this was filmed in Pac's hideout with him moving the camera around and stuff.
    What can I say that hasn't already been said. It was either become a political prisoner or live in exile.
    I chose exile and now my family and I are doing well.



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