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    Default 2Pac - Suge - 1996 Shooting - Alternate scenario

    New to the forum, but having read a lot of threads, shit I never learned so much. It's crazy son. I thought I would pick an alternate scenario:

    So, I was reading Murder Rap and Keffe D said their initial plan was to go Club 662 and ambush Suge and Pac. The way he said made it seem like it would've been easy.

    1. How do you think that would have worked out especially with all the MOB Pirus there? Suge and Pac were not strapped. They wouldn't have expected either. It's crazy to think, but after stomping a crip you would think they would've more security. 200 mofo's following Pac after Lane fight, yet no was there when he got shot.

    2. Also I was reading how J.Henchman got Suge shot and Suge couldn't get back at him. That's a bit strange given Suge's reputation. What if Suge/Pac crossed J. Henchman in 96 instead of let's say Nas. Shit would've gone down.

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    With regards to Vegas, the issue is that they didn't think that they were going to get any trouble that same night, but rather back in Compton. So they weren't expecting anything and just kept things at status quo. Plus it's not like the Death Row posse had never whooped on Crips before, and they never really saw any retaliation like that before.

    I wouldn't say that they needed "more" security. What would that have done? Assuming that you are talking about people at Club 662, Death Row likely had enough people and firepower there to deal with anything realistic, unless a few carloads of Crips showed up and just dumped on everyone there. But if you're talking about the caravan, it's hard to beef that up in a manner that would've changed things, unless you are expecting the car with Suge and Pac to have been boxed in by other Death Row cars for protection... which isn't likely.

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    I think 622 was really a no go zone with all the bloods just hanging out there, plus they'd of been on red alert knowing Pac stomped a Crip.
    Back in 96 Suge could have taken on Henchman, but back around 2006 when he was shot he was really on his way down after going bankrupt. Suge said back in 96 puffy doesn't bother me because he doesn't sell in units like we do, this was true until I'll be missing you in 97 puffy and bad boy were virtually unknown outside America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djhaynes View Post
    I think 622 was really a no go zone with all the bloods just hanging out there, plus they'd of been on red alert knowing Pac stomped a Crip.
    Back in 96 Suge could have taken on Henchman, but back around 2006 when he was shot he was really on his way down after going bankrupt. Suge said back in 96 puffy doesn't bother me because he doesn't sell in units like we do, this was true until I'll be missing you in 97 puffy and bad boy were virtually unknown outside America.
    Yeah i agree .... Henchman and suges relationship is weird i think henchman hates suge more then he hated pac by the way he talks about him ... Yeah henchman vs suge war would have been a all out warzone killers on both sides pac knew henchman was a different kinda animal then say beefing with puff n big ... I wouldnt say pac was scared but he was deffo wary ov him n co i think suge was aswell .... Most gangsters etc dont want the hassle ov going at someone who is just as cuttthroat, has killers on deck ready to ride ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsim100 View Post
    Yeah i agree .... Henchman and suges relationship is weird i think henchman hates suge more then he hated pac by the way he talks about him ... Yeah henchman vs suge war would have been a all out warzone killers on both sides pac knew henchman was a different kinda animal then say beefing with puff n big ... I wouldnt say pac was scared but he was deffo wary ov him n co i think suge was aswell .... Most gangsters etc dont want the hassle ov going at someone who is just as cuttthroat, has killers on deck ready to ride ...
    Henchman and Suge were really very similar, they all looked at artists as soft and easy to rip off. But Suge wanted the limelight, whereas Henchman just wanted the trappings of the music scene, but none of the magazine covers or interviews.
    I do agree with what Henchman said to Pac about shooting at cops, once you've done this your a marked man. I believe this made his life worse in jail, and was a big reason why the police didn't care about his murder.

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    So, basically if those bitches didn't scream 2pac, he would still be alive. Damn. It's like it was in his destiny to get shot. Although I suppose what happened that night was best for his legacy. If he lived, he would've gone prison with Suge.

    I still wonder why no one got at Orlando especially considering he was bragging or even Puffy. Suge's boys got merked so easily. Heron, Buntry, Dudley, Poochie, Henry. And none of them were randoms. That's crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flenory View Post
    So, basically if those bitches didn't scream 2pac, he would still be alive. Damn. It's like it was in his destiny to get shot. Although I suppose what happened that night was best for his legacy. If he lived, he would've gone prison with Suge.

    I still wonder why no one got at Orlando especially considering he was bragging or even Puffy. Suge's boys got merked so easily. Heron, Buntry, Dudley, Poochie, Henry. And none of them were randoms. That's crazy.
    They got ambushed remember it was mob vs fruit town .... They knew each other so thats easier to know there location at times n know wen to strike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flenory View Post
    So, basically if those bitches didn't scream 2pac, he would still be alive. Damn. It's like it was in his destiny to get shot. Although I suppose what happened that night was best for his legacy. If he lived, he would've gone prison with Suge.

    I still wonder why no one got at Orlando especially considering he was bragging or even Puffy. Suge's boys got merked so easily. Heron, Buntry, Dudley, Poochie, Henry. And none of them were randoms. That's crazy.
    Orlando wasn't killed because Suge needed him alive for his 1997 trial, he paid Orlando 16k to say Suge was trying to stop the fight, the judge saw right through it and sentenced Suge to 9 years. Biggie was killed a month later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigsim100 View Post
    They got ambushed remember it was mob vs fruit town .... They knew each other so thats easier to know there location at times n know wen to strike
    George Williams is actually lueders park piru, he had two other lueders park pirus kill heron for there personal beef. it didn't become a mob vs fruit thing until 2000 , George had hooked up with lil rod and got int the pcp game , George used to be best friends with poochie and knew a lot about dude, including tht poochie was pretty much runnin the pcp game in comptn. wat to me looks like a set up chin and poochie were shot on lil rods street at early hours in a van. they wanted to take out poochie to gain control of pcp. chin died who was a very close friend to buntry and the murder had took place in fruit town hood and lil rod was involved so buntry went out and killed a fruit town og vence buchanan. after that it was tit for tat gang war between fruit and mob

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