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    Default Keffe D and Zip spotted in MGM security camera footage?

    At 5:12 in the linked video below (the MGM surveillance video everyone has seen), I see someone who looks a lot like Keffe D walk across the frame near the top left. He approaches another guy and they talk next to Orlando Anderson. It appears that they're waiting for Orlando to get done talking to the police and Orlando seems to acknowledge them. The camera zooms in closer at 5:26 and then at 5:43 the one guy leaves in a hurry and we see a different angle of Keffe D standing there waiting at 6:11. At the very end of the video, Orlando leaves with another guy. Any thoughts on whether or not this is Keffe D? Maybe the guy at the end is Zip? For those who might be unaware, Keffe D is suspected to be in the Cadillac with Orlando Anderson when he shoots Tupac and Zip supposedly supplied them with the gun.

    https://youtu.be/2A-OzdfggFk

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaitianJack View Post
    At 5:12 in the linked video below (the MGM surveillance video everyone has seen), I see someone who looks a lot like Keffe D walk across the frame near the top left. He approaches another guy and they talk next to Orlando Anderson. It appears that they're waiting for Orlando to get done talking to the police and Orlando seems to acknowledge them. The camera zooms in closer at 5:26 and then at 5:43 the one guy leaves in a hurry and we see a different angle of Keffe D standing there waiting at 6:11. At the very end of the video, Orlando leaves with another guy. Any thoughts on whether or not this is Keffe D? Maybe the guy at the end is Zip? For those who might be unaware, Keffe D is suspected to be in the Cadillac with Orlando Anderson when he shoots Tupac and Zip supposedly supplied them with the gun.

    https://youtu.be/2A-OzdfggFk
    Yeah your right I'm 100% that is Keefe Dee, he really hasn't changed that much over the years. I pretty certain that's Zip too, the sharp suit, glasses and age of the guy fit. Zip knew how much Puffy wanted Pac out the way and would have gassed Orlando up. Think Orlando was coked up and drunk, it's easy money for Zip get some young gang banger to do all the dirty work, then collect the money off Puffy.
    We have to look at this in perspective, Murder Rap as it stands in 2017 has not been debunked at all. Just look at all the CCTV in the MGM, every casino in Vegas is like this because of Black Jack card counting, and croupiers on the take. If Orlando did just sit at the bar all night, then go back to the Treasure Island all this CCTV would have been used at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djhaynes View Post
    Yeah your right I'm 100% that is Keefe Dee, he really hasn't changed that much over the years. I pretty certain that's Zip too, the sharp suit, glasses and age of the guy fit. Zip knew how much Puffy wanted Pac out the way and would have gassed Orlando up. Think Orlando was coked up and drunk, it's easy money for Zip get some young gang banger to do all the dirty work, then collect the money off Puffy.
    We have to look at this in perspective, Murder Rap as it stands in 2017 has not been debunked at all. Just look at all the CCTV in the MGM, every casino in Vegas is like this because of Black Jack card counting, and croupiers on the take. If Orlando did just sit at the bar all night, then go back to the Treasure Island all this CCTV would have been used at the time.
    Glad you agree, I don't know of any real evidence that puts those guys in the casino that night other than this. I can't imagine I'm the only person that has discovered this but I couldn't find anyone else mentioning it online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaitianJack View Post
    Glad you agree, I don't know of any real evidence that puts those guys in the casino that night other than this. I can't imagine I'm the only person that has discovered this but I couldn't find anyone else mentioning it online.
    I think you must be, I never noticed it before. It's hard evidence that puts zip and Keefe where murder rap says they were. Plus that recent interview where Napoleon says Kadafi told him a white caddy with 4 black men in was looking in car windows of the caravan to spot 2pac.
    It's very interesting too how zip wants to talk to Orlando.
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    @Greg Kading can you confirm it is 100% Keefe Dee and Zip Von Martin talking to Orlando? Thanks

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    Here http://imgur.com/a/e6CGAs a picture of Zip that @Greg Kading posted on FB and he looks a lot heavier than the guy in the MGM video. I also found some footage of him on YouTube here https://youtu.be/Jkbc-zTXqqU?t=1m1s and he's heavy there too. So I'd say that's not him because the guy in the film is pretty slim. It would be super convenient if it really was him because Keffe is on tape saying that Zip told him he had a gun while they were in the lobby, so that would be the conversation right there on film. Anyway, I guess the bigger question is whether or not that's Keffe.

    Last edited by HaitianJack; 07-11-2017 at 12:29 PM.

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    Also starting to doubt that it's Keffe just based on the fact that he's wearing a t-shirt and who dresses like that to go to the Tyson fight, lol. He doesn't actually talk to Orlando at any point either, he's just hanging around. Hope I'm wrong though, we'll see what Greg says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HaitianJack View Post
    Also starting to doubt that it's Keffe just based on the fact that he's wearing a t-shirt and who dresses like that to go to the Tyson fight, lol. He doesn't actually talk to Orlando at any point either, he's just hanging around. Hope I'm wrong though, we'll see what Greg says.
    I think it is Keefe a pot belly and his face look similar.

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    This is interesting BG Knockout says Orlando was shot in the leg after Pac died.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eC4Sdiy9g8

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